May 21, 2020

Humbled Females: new forum reply to Slave as object vs slave as being Human/pet how does it change the dynamic overall?


New reply from OdinsFlower

<div class="wps_wp_editor_quote"> Master however wants an object dehumanized and devoid of feeling.</div>
<p>Unless he has told you these exact words, I would say many submissive women new to this, take a little comment(or a few short ones) and let their mind morph it *through their personal filter* which isn't yet in sink with their owner.</p>
<p>It comes from a place of not being secure and certainly isn't formed out of the owners will.</p>
<p>Remember, your perception may not be the reality he wishes to convey to you.</p>
<p>Communication in new dynamics is often imperfect.</p>
<p>A minor change like "he wants me to retain control of my emotions, enough to not be implosive, or ruled entirely by emotion, be constructive".</p>
<p>Can be all the difference in the world and yet to a women beset on assuming "the most polar point"of a man's statements,she wouldn't percieve his intent and would possibly be too shy to clear up the confusion.</p>
<p>That is..double check,ask for clarification, ask how you can "be" and fill what he needs and do not be afraid to say "I hear you saying z, do you mean x or am I misunderstanding".</p>
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<p>That way your lense isn't what's ruling the show,.</p>
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<p>when Master objectifies me I feel not fulfilled does not bring me joy yet it is what Master wants and that should bring me joy</p>
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<p>Who said you have to enjoy something if it's for him? </p>
<p>Some owners want what they want and it doesn't matter in that moment "that you enjoy it".</p>
<p>That can make it, "for them" because they are the one enjoying.</p>
<p>If he wants you to enjoy it,he can work to condition you into enjoying it but that takes time and I wouldn't presume he "needs you to" unless he says so.</p>
<div class="wps_wp_editor_quote">I'm conflicted and I just looking for other people's opinions experiences or some guidance so I can understand why Master needs because my actions and submissions are exactly the same it's just being the object that it hurts me </div>
<p>Then don't think about the object part. Let him be the one to hold "that part" and "that key" in his mind and breast while you focus on what he needs of you act and behavior wise.</p>
<p>As to looking to the guidance of others, this is concerning as folks won't know *his mind*, and their words could make work for him should they take root and not be what he wants in your head. </p>
<p>Turn to him, explain you need more guidance in this area, more help.</p>
<p>Maybe exercises in trust(or time) so you trust him enough to not question "why"all the time before doing. </p>
<p>I'm not saying its unnatural to question when you don't trust, but understand that trust takes time and that may be the "thing" that helps in the root of this.</p>
<p>The more you trust, which can't be faked, forced or propelled without it's due time, the less you will question his will.</p>
<p>Not for lack of curiosity but because you would've had time to trust that he won't abandon you in hardship and will fix whatever he must if he messes up.</p>
<p>I think *that is the root*,from what I see and other posts like this I've seen in the past.</p>
<p>You are new,vulnerable,confused, in great need of guidance, and you don't yet trust.</p>
<p>People fear becoming something for someone completely, without the trust fully having had time to form and be reinforced by memories that show your vulnerability and choices won't strand you.</p>
<p>That's ok. Give it time.</p>
<p>Life will test you both and he will at times need to pick up the pieces and in those instances you will learn to trust.</p>
<p>Obey first, obey above all else and the rest comes later.</p>
<p>Be transparent with him.</p>
<p>Run to him, rather then in your own mind, as your standards and perceptions may need fine tuning for some time, and only by him as he is your leader.</p>
<p>Best of luck♡</p>
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Original Post by Iwillsubmit

Slave as object vs slave as being Human/pet how does it change the dynamic overall?

<p>I am wondering if anybody has any experience with this I find Ultimate freedom in complete submission to master, however I cannot become the object that he deserves for this dynamic. Does anyone have any experience with having a slave that it's not an object but remains human or parapet rather than inanimate object. And how being an object would be better for the master-slave dynamic or how being adamant could be better or worse unable to find any literature thank you</p>

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