June 8, 2020

Humbled Females: new forum reply to Grandios Visions

New reply from teejayel

<p>A very interesting topic. It could be answered in terms of practical reality, fantasy or realistic possibility. If you discount fantasy and try to keep it grounded in a life that can be lived, it tends, I think, to be a question of the people around you and the world at large, and perhaps the social antennae to maximize opportunity. It's also the case that in the event of having children in the family it's inevitable that life is more circumscribed, although by no means impossible. It for me is also important that the sexuality cart is not put in front of the relationship horse For me the sexuality emerges <em>from</em> the relationship and ultimately suffuses all aspects of it and it, the submission of the female, is the medium through which it is ultimately expressed, but it is not the origin. </p>
<p>For me, the starting point is a relationship, frankly a "more developed" normal married life, and the ability to achieve all the things that a life of work, education, travel and culture can achieve (which is what I had with a fully consented woman). Any woman in my life is the best friend and closest person in the world to me. I need to share with her my mind, her mind and her submission. I need to attend closely to the changes I bring in her as a take her into subordination, which is the great thrill of extending and deepening intimacy until she changes profoundly and no longer recognizes herself.</p>
<p>I could only reasonably be interested in more than one woman (beyond fantasy) if it were possible to know each as fully intimately as one alone (and if they each were "accommodating"; the two woman with the inventor of "Wonder Woman" in the 1940s spring to mind; something of a rarity?)</p>
<p>My experience has been full and deep, and my woman's submission deep enough, BUT to make it more complete: </p>
<p>1) I would have preferred her labia pierced. I had my principal life partner wear pinch earrings, carrying tags, at her labia, but this was intermittent only. I bought "piercing padlocks" (one a ring for attachments, one a disc to carry a property number) but only ever used them to padlock a chain choker on the neck that could be worn outdoors, replacing or supplementing it with a leather collar at home. I would have preferred her to wear these two padlocks <em>permanently</em>, possibly threaded through tunnel labial piercings. I have seen and know of numerous examples of women with pierced labia, but none in person. Perhaps there's a reason. </p>
<p>I am not keen on tattoos, but if strictly limited – perhaps between the buttocks – I had also considered tattooing a property number and some other symbol (my woman only ever marked temporarily with a marker pen for a photo).</p>
<p>I have seen two examples. The most overt slave (taking it beyond the domestic) an English woman, was tattooed on the back of her head having an area shaved for the purpose, the hair then growing back. Perhaps not. Another overt slave, an American woman, sports a TSR property number tattooed on her pubis, which looks very fine, but also multiple other tattoos which I feel detracts from her natural beauty. For either the piercing or the tattoo, you <em>must</em> carry the woman with you (There must be no resentment). A sufficient passionate intensity to bring that about <em>without</em> undermining the central relationship, indeed, enhancing it, would be excellent. </p>
<p>2) If she was naked in front of others (which would have to be very specific circumstances: in reality I only ever had her naked on a couple of beaches) I would be pleased if her status was immediately apparent and that her property number (from TSR) would link instantly to a online profile. There is somebody living about 20 miles from me who has achieved this (with a much less private, more driven woman) with a profile on Fetlife, and has her depicted naked collared and tagged at some outdoor naturist place in Kent amongst other places.  Whereas there was and is a private profile, I should like to have got to the stage with her of her submission being complete, detailed and fully "public" (sharp pictures) online to make that aspect of submission a part of her.</p>
<p>3) I would like to be part of a community were CMnf was routine, or to have friends whom I could invite in, with or without their wives on a leash, without troubling to warn mine and have her serve collared and naked. I am aware of dining clubs where this is possible, but have not managed it. I have of course been many times served with her naked and collared in private, but there is an aspect of deepening and normalizing submission that, despite a long a happy relationship, that I have missed. I am pen friends with a couple who run such a small group, so there is potential. But, this is an impossibility with normal friends and colleagues because society does not work like that. Indeed, outside of the most private small groups selected <em>not</em> from normal contacts, a virtual online village is the most practical such community. </p>
<p>I have taken a girl naked and collared to a club, but she was not a long term partner. The game is to combine the "short term sexuality" with a long term worthy partner. At the more fantasy end of this is the possibility of a club where all the females have the status of being consented and owned, and because of this might, with their owner's consent, be used freely, or be used simply in parallel by their own owners. This is clearly perfectly possible out there, but I have considered it too risky to the status quo with a good woman. There is always the possibility of carrying things too far. So I have left it t the point of establishing "in principle" consent without the practice. It seems to me more useful to have a naked, submissive, collared woman about the place rather than risking the relationship or public life with anything more direct, which, after all, would only be a temporary adventure.</p>
<p>This, I accept, might make me sound rather timid, but the quality of my relationship was high. I have seen and been in shallower relationships that were superficially more exciting, but ultimately less rewarding. </p>
<p>4) I would certainly wish to maximize/increase the time my girl spent naked and collared. This would probably need a better climate and a more private location with neighbours at a greater distance (I have a reasonaly large house and garden, but not completely private). My place in secluded grounds in warm weather with a pool would do the trick. </p>
<p>The reality is that out of all these, given that I already had "full" consent (there's no such thing, all is relative) I'd probably be e content with circumstances (a decent private house and grounds) where I could maximize her collared nudity and have her wear a permanent, numbered ownership tag at her labium (a sort of rom-dom, perhaps?). But then I was also content with what I actually had. Apologies if I have caveated all this too closely. </p>


Original Post by MarcEsadrian

Grandios Visions

<p>If you were to have an ideal layout of circumstances and qualities in your life where it comes to having a submissive female or females, what would it be? What does the ideal design of your life look like? For instance, are you living in a spacious mansion with a household of girls, or do you prefer something more intimate? Are you more monogamous and traditional or would you prefer absolute slaves? Modern or old world style? Country or city? Where would you go in the world? If you had the power to wave a wand and make your ideal life come true, what would it look like?</p>
<p>This question isn't necessarily for fledgling masters or dominant males only. There are no doubt many men who have attained parts of their dreams and are working on the rest. We're all in different stages of life and fulfillment. I'm simply curious about what visions others may have that differ from my own. I'll contribute to this thread myself, too.</p>

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