New reply from Nina E.
<p><em>"Assuming that we're talking about something like that, it's really extreme, and I think extremely unhealthy. But at least it seemed to be what she wanted. Nobody who doesn't deeply want specifically that should even try to emulate this."</em></p>
<p>I agree completely. While the specifics about how Iwillsubmit was told she would live are vague, those of us who have been to a few county fairs and a rodeo, so to speak, know that extreme objectification to the degree of being treated like an object with no personality or emotions is tough stuff, even for a very experienced and devoted slave or submissive. If it can be done, I would think it would first require a very deep and intense bond of trust be built up, and that would be on the master to initiate (although the slave would need to be absolutely willing to participate). And it would make all of this so much easier if she came pre-packaged with a huge fetish for objectification (some people are like that) and already had extensive experience with severe, intense enslavement. At least then she would have a fighting chance.</p>
<p>But someone new, just starting to explore? It sounds, Iwillsubmit, that doing this is a huge interest of this man, to the point where it might even be a fetish, and his need is great, but it doesn't sound like he understands the psychological fine points of succeeding at an endeavor this extreme. Little things like, you know, choosing the right "tool" for the job at hand? It requires a special sort of person, a rather strong person I would think, who can tolerate not only being loveless potentially for years on end, possibly for the rest of one's life, but also friendless and affectionless because one is merely an object. I would think you would have to first really, REALLY love someone in order to be able to give up so much of what makes a person human in order to serve them. And you two were just starting out, weren't you? How could you know if you loved him, let alone how much, at such an early stage?</p>
<p>PS: You made my day earlier today, Iwillsubmit. I was just starting to read this thread but didn't have time to finish it before I had to move five feet away to my other desk and go to work. But just before I did, I came across "the Bumblebee Nails lifestyle" and oh my god, I couldn't stop laughing all day over it. It is so cute! I know it's just one of those stupid "smart" phone fails. But this one was truly stellar! I even told my Master I wanted to live a Bumblebee Nails lifestyle, like all the other cool females. Hmm… He hasn't gotten back to me on that one, yet…but I remain ever hopeful. ;-)</p>
<p>And I learned something, too. I googled this marvelous phrase. And… of course. In this ridiculous era we all find ourselves living in… this is actually "<a href="https://midn1ghtbutterfly.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_7570-copy.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener">a thing</a>."</p>
Original Post by Iwillsubmit
Slave as object vs slave as being Human/pet how does it change the dynamic overall?
<p>I am wondering if anybody has any experience with this I find Ultimate freedom in complete submission to master, however I cannot become the object that he deserves for this dynamic. Does anyone have any experience with having a slave that it's not an object but remains human or parapet rather than inanimate object. And how being an object would be better for the master-slave dynamic or how being adamant could be better or worse unable to find any literature thank you</p>