June 20, 2020

Humbled Females: new forum reply to Scientific basis for attention whores. :)


New reply from Patriarchy

<p><strong>My Best Criticisms on the Article </strong></p>
<p>There are a lot of wild intuitive leaps in the author’s reasoning. While I am not disinclined to examining what our intuitions point to, there is a filter that I run intuitive extrapolations like this through: ‘Hypothetically, when considered as a contrived narrative; what is being advocated for and how does what it is being advocated for benefit the one possibly proposing a favourable narrative?’</p>
<p>Allow this question, and one can see we possibly have a woman trying to wrap her own baser inclinations in self-justifying rhetoric. That’s necessary intellectual scrutiny on my part, to consider as much. When I work backwards from there and see the lack of references in her intuitive leaps, a seemingly over simplification of neuro-behavioural mechanics. A lack of robust reasoning; that neither speculates as to the bio-psychological advantage for her proposed mechanisms (in a bio-evolutionary context), nor moves towards an empirically verifiable model that makes substantive predictions about human behaviour… It adds weight to the idea she is just spinning the narrative she desires.</p>
<p>There is a way in which one can use the mind, where ideas that ‘feel good’ are decorated in favorable logic, much like how one decorates a Christmas tree. In this mode of operation ‘facts’ are merely appreciated for their astethic appeal, as a convoluted aid to something we should call mental-masterbation. </p>
<p>When attempting to model-out and interlink as many bio-behavioural and physiological sub-systems, as this author is, a rational intellectual attempts to consider alternate explanations and alternate modeling. That consideration yields a model that is structured in a way that addresses any glaring problems it may seem to have. That isn’t being done here.</p>
<p>The variability intra-gender (woman to woman) in how much attention they might need isn’t even touched on. What accounts for that variability, one would think, is a very important question. Namely, because the answer to that question would allow one to return to the topic of inter-gender comparisons and actually measure out how much of those differences are created by those  factors (that produce intra-gender differences). Of course, doing that (or even suggesting doing that) would begin to substantially demonstrate the relative power of variables that may be shaping our behaviour. </p>
<p>Returning to the filter question, this article reads a lot like a woman trying to argue in favour of her own sensual and social proclivities. Unfortunately she’s done so in such cowardly and indirect a fashion that it’s unlikely to bring her any closer to what she seems to want. Desires are not quenched with justification, only action. </p>
<p>Let’s not skip over the fact that, for the author, her vagina is the proper lense through which to explore all the behavioural and physiological shifts she points to. This is a separate problem I won’t address here.</p>
<p><b><br />Attention Whores</b></p>
<p>My go-to modelling is simply that egregious attention seeking behaviour is maladaptive and childish. We know it’s necessary for children, in their cradle, as the only way to remedy life’s early woes is that baleful high-pitched wail. Even in earlier years, the problems of life are solved by those around us; the power to purchase their attention is essential to survival.</p>
<p>At some point, however, as an adult, is it not necessary we become solvers of problems? If not us than who? What a horrible poverty awaits those children whose mothers seek out attention for feel-good vibes; instead of finding greater satisfaction in providing attention, where necessary. </p>
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https://humbledfemales.net/general-discussion/scientific-basis-for-attention-whores

Original Post by _daisy_

Scientific basis for attention whores. :)

<p>Not sure if the conclusion this article comes to is correct but this might explain why females look for more approval and attention from males than males do from the female. Men are more self-contained and self motivated.</p>
<p>According to this, you can increase your dopamine yourself, but you can't increase your serotonin levels without external positive reinforcement. And men have 50% more serotonin receptors.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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<p>Women need twice as much positive reinforcement from our external environment than men do in order to drive the same amount of motivation in dopamine activity.</p>
<p><b>Women need more encouragement along the way</b> to elicit the same neurochemical cascade.</p>
<p>.If she doesn’t get the positive reinforcement from her environment, her serotonin levels will drop, and eventually so will her dopamine.</p>
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<p><a href="https://www.thehealthloft.ca/why-women-need-twice-as-much-sex-as-men/">https://www.thehealthloft.ca/why-women-need-twice-as-much-sex-as-men/</a></p>

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